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Elvis
12-12-2008, 11:03 PM
Just another step in in a long process of forcing productive enterprises out of the state of California. And despite having one of the highest overall taxation rates of any state, they are facing an unprecedented budget shortfall. Can't imagine why...


California passes rules to force diesel truck emissions retrofit
http://www.reuters.com/article/newsOne/idUSTRE4BC0CU20081213

By Peter Henderson

SAN FRANCISCO (Reuters) - On Friday, California became the first state in the country to force big diesel trucks to clean up their exhaust, despite warnings from truckers the new rules will force them out of business.

About a million vehicles, from big rigs to school buses, are affected by the new rules, which will begin taking effect in 2011 and do not require further ratification.

Some vehicles will have to start retrofitting engines in 2011 and some older trucks will be forced into retirement starting in 2012. By 2023, all trucks must meet 2010 new engine emission standards.

The rules regulate smog-causing oxides of nitrogen, which are greenhouse gases, and particulate matter, which is toxic. The California Air Resources Board estimated the regulations would cost about $5.5 billion. It put the health benefits of cleaner air at $48 billion to $69 billion over the next couple of decades.

The move by California, the leading U.S. state on climate change, complements a detailed strategy to cut carbon emissions that the board passed on Thursday as part of its sweeping plan to cut carbon emissions to 1990 levels by 2020. [Evidently they plan on doing it by cutting economic activity to near the level where it was in 1990!]

While the federal government has no such rules for trucks or carbon, President-elect Barack Obama has said that climate change will be a priority when he takes office in January.

Individual truckers and companies told the board, which is the agency charged with carrying out the state's landmark global warming law, that the new rules requiring retrofitting of recently purchased trucks and the replacing of older vehicles would prove too financially onerous during a global economic slowdown.

Board members recognized that the buckling U.S. economy could change the impact of the regulation, requiring changes.

But Chairman Mary Nichols said before two unanimous votes ratifying the changes that history showed such rules were not economically onerous.

"While this one is big and expensive and is being adopted in difficult times, we've never adopted a rule that I'm aware of that didn't have severe opposition," she said. "The reality has been that the cost of compliance has turned out to have been less than we estimated."

madmaxdmax
12-13-2008, 06:45 PM
...and yet another reason why I don't live in California. I will just keep visiting and rollin' coal whenever possible while driving there !):h

blksmok
12-14-2008, 12:06 AM
...and yet another reason why I don't live in California. I will just keep visiting and rollin' coal whenever possible while driving there !):h

Yeah, I break most their rules while I'm there. I roll coal on the freeway on the ricers behind me, I tow my trailer in the fast lane and HOV lanes, and I change HOV lanes whenever, wherever I want just like in phoenix. I basically follow phoenix rules even in Ca. ):h

Elvis
12-14-2008, 08:30 PM
If this
http://www.caranddriver.com/reviews/hot_lists/car_shopping/latest_news_reviews/drastic_fuel_economy_increases_could_stem_from_bai lout_and_cripple_automakers_car_news
is correct, and if California wins the litigation to curb greenhouse gas emissions, then automakers may only be able to sell small passenger cars in California...

excerpt:
In addition to the new CAFE national fuel-economy regulations mandating automakers achieve a fleet average of 35 mpg across all vehicles sold in the U.S. by 2020, pending legislation in California would essentially impose even higher fuel-economy standards on vehicles sold in the state by restricting greenhouse-gas emissions. The amount of carbon dioxide a vehicle emits is directly proportional to the fuel it consumes, meaning that a vehicle cannot reduce its CO2 emissions without increasing its fuel economy.

If passed, the proposed legislation would have a grave impact on the U.S. auto market. It would essentially create two zones of sales in the U.S.: California (and the other states adopting its standards), and the rest of the states. Since a high percentage of the country's sports cars are sold in California, it has been suggested that many exotic car companies—Ferrari, Lamborghini, and Porsche, for example—would simply withdraw from the U.S. Other automakers could be forced to pull out of the restricted market in order to continue selling trucks and SUVs. Even mid-size and large cars would be unable to meet the California standards without expensive alternative propulsion systems. GM’s own Chevrolet Volt would be one of the few cars that could meet California standards, but it likely will cost more than $40,000, and it is a compact. The legislation would artificially create stricter fuel-economy standards while the automakers are already struggling current federally mandated increases.

A consortium of automakers, including the Detroit Three, is suing California to block the legislation from being passed. This lawsuit is now tangled up in the fight over the bridge loans needed by General Motors and Chrysler to ease them through their current financial crisis.

GMC2500HD
12-15-2008, 07:25 PM
I think this is a great idea.. At least it is a start...

madmaxdmax
12-15-2008, 08:07 PM
California...yeah that state B-L-O-W-S !!!):h

NoSmoke
12-16-2008, 08:03 PM
Another good reason my truck has "Arkansas" plates.

hddm3
12-19-2008, 10:28 PM
Why don't we just ban Kalifornia! I will fight them to the death. With all the restrictions there i dont know why more truckers just refuse to go there. They are broke anyways.