View Full Version : EFI tune not fully writing (nemo)
MMLMM
01-18-2009, 12:08 AM
What do you mean when you unload it? When you flash a new tune, you just open it and write it with the narrow red arrow. Can you specifically tell me how you load a tune in? Ill try to help you anyway I can. Ill prolly be at the Dyno coming up an can help you so dont give up quite yet :Handshake:
I use the one with the narrow red arrow, go through the stuff it asks me and than it will start going in, right after it unlocks the ECM it will go one more step(most the time) and than a red writing comes up telling me there is an error and to turn the ignition off for 15 sec, I do that and than try again, and again, and again... after getting no luck I try starting the truck and absolutly nothing happens(no clicking of the ignition etc.)
-Nemo
I also take it off high speed...
I dont know if you remember but about one month ago I called you (Garrett Bonds from durango) gave me your number, KillerBee myself and Paulfrom EFI could not figure out what the problem was...
-Nemo
What, specifically, does the error say?
error planting seed is one, to be honost there is a couple, I will probably try again tomarrow but Im just tired of paying the dealership. lol give me a second, ill try to look through my emails with Paul...
-Nemo
This was one that was done while I was talking with Paul.(him walking me through another attempt... this was about the 15th ish attempt to get my truck started but it is simular every time...
-Nemo
> > > > > > > > > 15:45:40.968: Scanning for EFILive FlashScan V2 USB
> > > > > > > > > 15:45:43.453: Scanning for EFILive FlashScan V2 HAPI
> > > > > > > > > 15:45:43.656: Interface firmware version: 2.6.5
> > > > > > > > > 15:45:43.687: Interface firmware model: FSV2
> > > > > > > > > 15:45:43.718: Interface firmware version: 2.6.5
> > > > > > > > > 15:45:43.750: Interface firmware date: Oct 28, 2008
> > > > > > > > > 15:45:43.765: FlashScan serial number: 003685384037
> > > > > > > > > 15:45:43.796: FlashScan license number: 003685384037
> > > > > > > > > 15:45:43.828: Disconnecting ...
> > > > > > > > > 15:45:44.203: CAN-VPW Bridge Deactived
> > > > > > > > > 15:45:44.218: Disconnected
> > > > > > > > > 15:45:44.875: Scanning for EFILive FlashScan V2 USB
> > > > > > > > > 15:45:47.359: Scanning for EFILive FlashScan V2 HAPI
> > > > > > > > > 15:45:47.578: Interface firmware version: 2.6.5
> > > > > > > > > 15:45:47.609: CAN-VPW Bridge Actived
> > > > > > > > > 15:45:47.640: Current protocol set to: "SAE J1850 VPW"
> > > > > > > > > 15:45:49.765: Current protocol: "SAE J1850 VPW"
> > > > > > > > > 15:45:49.812: Interface firmware model: FSV2
> > > > > > > > > 15:45:49.859: Interface firmware version: 2.6.5
> > > > > > > > > 15:45:49.890: Interface firmware date: Oct 28, 2008
> > > > > > > > > 15:45:49.921: FlashScan serial number: 003685384037
> > > > > > > > > 15:45:49.953: FlashScan license number: 003685384037
> > > > > > > > > 15:45:50.562: Getting status...
> > > > > > > > > 15:45:54.640: Getting status, attempt 2 of 10...
> > > > > > > > > 15:45:55.671: Getting status, attempt 3 of 10...
> > > > > > > > > 15:45:56.718: Getting status, attempt 4 of 10...
> > > > > > > > > 15:45:57.750: Getting status, attempt 5 of 10...
> > > > > > > > > 15:45:58.796: Getting status, attempt 6 of 10...
> > > > > > > > > 15:45:59.828: Getting status, attempt 7 of 10...
> > > > > > > > > 15:46:00.875: Getting status, attempt 8 of 10...
> > > > > > > > > 15:46:01.921: Getting status, attempt 9 of 10...
> > > > > > > > > 15:46:02.953: Getting status, attempt 10 of 10...
> > > > > > > > > 15:46:04.000: Status: Unknown.
> > > > > > > > > 15:46:04.984: Bootloader version: DLLY_v1.4F (0810-59D1)> > > > > > > > > 15:46:05.000: Preparing ECM for reflash...
> > > > > > > > > 15:46:07.125: Interface firmware version: 2.6.5
> > > > > > > > > 15:46:10.187: ECM may not be secured - did not reply
> to seed
> > > > > request
> > > > > > > > > 15:46:10.203: Initializing ECM...
> > > > > > > > > 15:46:10.218: Initializing ECM, step 1 of 4
> > > > > > > > > 15:46:10.218: Initializing ECM, step 2 of 4
> > > > > > > > > 15:46:10.234: Initializing ECM, step 3 of 4
> > > > > > > > > 15:46:10.250: Initializing ECM, step 4 of 4
> > > > > > > > > 15:46:15.281: No response from ECM. Retry 1...
> > > > > > > > > 15:46:17.500: Interface firmware version: 2.6.5
> > > > > > > > > 15:46:20.562: ECM may not be secured - did not reply
> to seed
> > > > > request
> > > > > > > > > 15:46:20.578: Initializing ECM...
> > > > > > > > > 15:46:20.593: Initializing ECM, step 1 of 4
> > > > > > > > > 15:46:20.609: Initializing ECM, step 2 of 4
> > > > > > > > > 15:46:20.609: Initializing ECM, step 3 of 4
> > > > > > > > > 15:46:20.640: Initializing ECM, step 4 of 4
> > > > > > > > > 15:46:25.671: No response from ECM. Retry 2...
> > > > > > > > > 15:46:27.421: ECM is in an unknown state.
> > > > > > > > > 15:46:29.843: Disconnecting ...
> > > > > > > > > 15:46:30.234: CAN-VPW Bridge Deactived
> > > > > > > > > 15:46:30.234: Disconnected
> > > > > > > > > 15:46:30.250: Data transfer was interrupted.
> > > > > > > > > 15:46:32.093: Done!
I haven't seen that one before.
Paul doesn't have a fix for it?
Nope, we talked for almost a week and no solution, closest to a solution we came to was "For some reason we have been having trouble with LLY's"(paul)... the dealership is able to reflash my truck but I cant with EFI... my PPE and Hypertech both worked fine.
-Nemo
blksmok
01-18-2009, 09:57 AM
Nemo,
Sequence of events matters. Try this is you haven't already.
1. With the truck key off and removed, Bring up your computer, but don't open any programs. (reboot the PC if you haven't done so already)
2. Connect the OBDII port from the V2 to the truck
3. Turn the truck key to the "on" position (I always turn off the headlights, A/C system/ radio at this point)
4. Connect the V2 to the PC via USB.
5. Bring up EFILive program on computer
6. Open file you want to flash.
7. Flash file using the red down arrow button.
I've had trucks that would give me errors and if I shut everything down, including reboot the computer and then do these steps in order, I've never had one that wouldn't go through. I'd be happy to look at it with you at the dyno event.
BTW, what exact version of EFILive SW do you have? (Help : About) What version and build?
RickDLance
01-18-2009, 10:56 AM
Also, might help to try another ecm. That way you can keep one working instead of returning to the dealer. ;)
blksmok
01-18-2009, 11:20 AM
I use the one with the narrow red arrow, go through the stuff it asks me and than it will start going in, right after it unlocks the ECM it will go one more step(most the time) and than a red writing comes up telling me there is an error and to turn the ignition off for 15 sec, I do that and than try again, and again, and again... after getting no luck I try starting the truck and absolutly nothing happens(no clicking of the ignition etc.)
-Nemo
Are you saying the truck is dead now? Can you not even start it any longer?
hondarider552
01-18-2009, 01:09 PM
Are you saying the truck is dead now? Can you not even start it any longer?correct. it wont even crank.
Yea wont crank but everytime I try to flash im smart enough to try it at the dealership...
-Nemo
Nemo,
Sequence of events matters. Try this is you haven't already.
1. With the truck key off and removed, Bring up your computer, but don't open any programs. (reboot the PC if you haven't done so already)
2. Connect the OBDII port from the V2 to the truck
3. Turn the truck key to the "on" position (I always turn off the headlights, A/C system/ radio at this point)
4. Connect the V2 to the PC via USB.
5. Bring up EFILive program on computer
6. Open file you want to flash.
7. Flash file using the red down arrow button.
I've had trucks that would give me errors and if I shut everything down, including reboot the computer and then do these steps in order, I've never had one that wouldn't go through. I'd be happy to look at it with you at the dyno event.
BTW, what exact version of EFILive SW do you have? (Help : About) What version and build?
Ill give it a shot and im running 7.5.5...
EFI Support
01-18-2009, 04:52 PM
We need to determine if the issue is vehicle/ECM related or FlashScan/PC related.
In the thread on our forum, Ross has asked if Nemo can read another vehicle and see what happens.
Cheers
Cindy
I can give it a shot... hey brian, wanna do a test? :)
-Nemo
blksmok
01-18-2009, 08:59 PM
Yea wont crank but everytime I try to flash im smart enough to try it at the dealership...
-Nemo
Ill give it a shot and im running 7.5.5...
What build?
blksmok
01-18-2009, 09:07 PM
Before you turn someone elses ECM into a brick I would try the following to isolate.
Get with one of us here in the valley that has EFILive. Since the problem happens even on a read, you can try the following.
1. Try and read your ECM with their V2 and laptop (takes both your laptop and V2 out of the equation. If it's still a problem, then that points to your ECM.
2. Try and read with your Laptop and their V2. That takes only your V2 out.
3. Try and read with their laptop and your V2. Takes out your laptop.
One of those three should isolate the problem without risking anyone elses ECM.
I'll do it if you are gonna be out in East Mesa.
That is do able... im just tired of it plus im getting 8mpg or so, so its really not helping...
-Nemo
hondarider552
01-18-2009, 09:37 PM
the dyno event would be a good place to meet.
Okie dookie, ill bring my labtop and V2 to the Dyno... you guys can ****(mess) around with my truck at my cost... hopefully someone can figure it out...
-Nemo
blksmok
01-18-2009, 10:10 PM
You've never had the truck go to a "no start" condition after reading it only have you? I don't see how this could happen...
When I try to pull the stock tune out it does it...
-Nemo
ripmf666
01-19-2009, 05:03 AM
I have had this happen after a year of running the ecm and flashing it, I will loose the OS and have to have it flashed by the dealer still has vin in it but looses the OS.
TheBestTruck
01-19-2009, 06:20 AM
Nemo, what was your previous tuner before EFI LIVE ? And did it tell you to set the emergency brake before tuning? If so, get on level ground and do not set your brake and tune with V2 again. Try this when you have local buddy support,cause you sure don't want to pay for another tow bill. It may sound silly to you but it just might be the problem.
Steve
I have had this happen after a year of running the ecm and flashing it, I will loose the OS and have to have it flashed by the dealer still has vin in it but looses the OS.
Ive got the OS saved in a few places and all tunes I try to put in are the same OS thats in the truck...
Nemo, what was your previous tuner before EFI LIVE ? And did it tell you to set the emergency brake before tuning? If so, get on level ground and do not set your brake and tune with V2 again. Try this when you have local buddy support,cause you sure don't want to pay for another tow bill. It may sound silly to you but it just might be the problem.
Steve
PPE Hot+2 E.T. I think ive used my e-brake once maybe twice since ive had my truck... and Ive been going to the dealership when I try to reflash so they cant just push it in or hook it up...
I am going to let MMLMM or HondaRider flash it,if it goes in than im doing somthing wrong, if it doesnt go in,aw well no big deal...
-Nemo
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