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jpowel29
04-11-2009, 03:19 PM
I finally got around to dis-assembling my stock long block. Motor has 12k miles of street driving, road trips, dyno runs, and drag racing with the mods shown in my sig. Back in January it dyno'ed 741hp/1188ft-lbs on a load cell DynoJet with around 2500us PW and under 22 degrees of timing. Injector balance rates were good when we pulled it, it did not smoke, rattle, or miss.

Hearing/reading all of the stories about holes in pistons and bent rods, I was concerned that I would find similar damage. The heads, head gaskets, valves, and valvetrain all look good.

With the heads off I could see witness marks from the valves making contact with the carbon build-up on the piston tops (My tune has me upshifting around 4400rpm and the motor had seen redline in the water box a few times). No bent valves or piston damage but it shows the need for QUALITY valve springs. Factory pushrods look good and roll across a small glass mirror w/no deflection.

The stock flexplate looks fine with no cracks, factory balancer and locating pins on the crank are fine. Oil pan was clean with no metal. Lifters are still like new. Two of the rod bearings need to be replaced as it looks like some trash/debris got passed through them at some point (all the rest look like new and the rod journals look good w/no scoring). Motor held above 30lbs of oil pressure hot at idle with 15-40 Rotella (over 60lbs cold).

All the rods are straight (from initial visual inspection) pics attached. Pistons, rings, and wrist pins look excellent as well. EGTs got as high as 1600 degrees at the top end of the track with some pretty good black smoke.

Once I added oversize nozzles and twin pumps I shorted the oil change interval (I didn't do any oil analysis but watched it closely and changed it when I felt it was getting sooted - about every 2000-3000 miles). The tuning was kept low at low rpms per my request and I think this made the difference (I know I traded off torque and ET). The intake & exhaust upgrades helped manage EGTS with the heavier fuel tunes.

RickDLance
04-11-2009, 08:31 PM
I've never seen one torn done before it breaks.):h

Looks like you could have went a few more miles. :)

jpowel29
04-11-2009, 10:06 PM
Yes it could have but didn't want to push my luck (or lack thereof)

Nick
04-11-2009, 10:21 PM
Well, I for one think this is awesome :). This truck has been documented making big dyno numbers and screaming MPH on a stock longblock. If the calipers show the rods to be in good shape, I think you'll see some more gamblers go this route in hopes of honing the recipe. I may be slightly biased, but what the hell...

Injectors are quite a bit cheaper than rods :o

Nick

minisub
04-12-2009, 12:36 AM
That is impressive on a stock block, thanks for sharing.

In the picture "rods-pistons 005" what is going on on the lip of the bowl between 12:00 and 12:15?

NWTDIESEL
04-12-2009, 02:20 AM
Nice! looks very good. Ill be tearing my 220k lb7 down next week. Im scared to even see what it looks like.):h my other block is at the machine shop now and will be ready pretty soon.

What parts do you plan on upgrading?

Nick
04-12-2009, 02:33 AM
John already has a new engine in the truck and running. He pretty much went all-out on the updated motor. Heads, cam, springs, girdle... 1000hp stuff.

Nick

jpowel29
04-12-2009, 06:40 PM
That is impressive on a stock block, thanks for sharing.

In the picture "rods-pistons 005" what is going on on the lip of the bowl between 12:00 and 12:15?


I went back and looked at that piston - no cracks (it is actually carbon build-up crud). The camera gives it a weird look. You can see my palm print where I was holding the piston as it was coming out of the block. I plan soak the good in cleaner and re-visual everything.

jpowel29
04-12-2009, 06:42 PM
I was also expecting to see more of the injector spray pattern that I have seen in other teardown pics. My assumption is that this would come more from the longer pw tunes.

jpowel29
04-12-2009, 06:44 PM
John already has a new engine in the truck and running. He pretty much went all-out on the updated motor. Heads, cam, springs, girdle... 1000hp stuff.

Nick

Ya - I got the itch pretty bad....

NWTDIESEL
04-12-2009, 06:56 PM
John already has a new engine in the truck and running. He pretty much went all-out on the updated motor. Heads, cam, springs, girdle... 1000hp stuff.

Nick

Sweet! My built started out as a small build but now its turning into a all-out build aswell. Should be fun.

I was surprised there wasnt more of a spray pattern on the piston too. Good luck with your motor!!

MAXLLY
04-12-2009, 10:01 PM
Looks good, seems the low timing and larger injectors helped a TON.

Good luck with the bottle.:thumb: