if you have or want water/meth, must read....

[DunesRunner08]

So a friend of mine who is a freaking genious when it comes to mathematical engineering has designed a fogger system for the duramax to be used with water/meth injection kits....

Patent Pending, 8-nozzle, single
feed, hardened alloy fog cuff for
LLY, LBZ, and LMM. Gas cooling
concept promises to provide a 65 HP
grade benefit, and fan eliminating
heat reduction using only
water…110 HP anticipated
performance benefit with methanol
mixture. Also anticipated 150-250 F
EGT reduction, 3-5 psi boost
improvement, 5-10% air flow
increase, and 140,000 BTU/hr
induction cooling.
Designed to fit LBZ and LMM
models, plus LLY vehicles with the
Induction Overhaul Kit,. 5”
diameter. Will be available anodized in different colors. Price includes 8 fog nozzles
with various flow rates available


http://members.cox.net/beekiller/GMC%20Light%20Duty/MISC/I-FOG/IMG_2223.jpg

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if you are interested, contact me or email Michael at beekiller@cox.net


powerstroke and cummins will be available in the future with enough demand

[Crazy_Steve]

Are there no issues with doing this before the turbo?

[emiller3]

It looks sweet.

[neversatisfied]

Are there no issues with doing this before the turbo?

As long as the water droplets are small enough their shouldn't be an issue.

[Diesel Tech]

There is an issue when you put the water in prior to the intercooler. Since the intercooler is designed to cool it has fins on the inside to increase the surface area that the air contacts. This causes the water to stick to these surfaces and it results in water droplets. This is not new and it was tried long ago with poor results. Now if you do not have an intercooler that is a different story. Also by adding the water prior to the turbocharger you slow the turbocharger down as it has to work more due to the denser air that the water creates. This is why all modern systems place the water after the turbocharger.

You might want to tell your friend to find a way to lock those water jet's in place because if they come out it will make one big mess of the turbocharger since they are inside the air inlet.

[DunesRunner08]

he has been testing it with good results... and he has done a ton of other inventions for the Dmax... he has a stock intake mod that is far superior to any aftermarket intake out there... with all of his numbers and testing on this, and seeing his numbers in person, i would stand behind this

[hondarider552]

Id let Michael chime in on this Bill.
I am also kinda iffy about this setup. I dont really want anything besides a filter before my turbo.

[Mike]

Are you referring to killerbee?

[neversatisfied]

Are you referring to killerbee?

I think I saw him post about this on another forum

[blksmok]

he has been testing it with good results... and he has done a ton of other inventions for the Dmax... he has a stock intake mod that is far superior to any aftermarket intake out there... with all of his numbers and testing on this, and seeing his numbers in person, i would stand behind this

What are the "good results"?
Where are the numbers?

[hondarider552]

Are you referring to killerbee?

Yes sir.

[DunesRunner08]

now, i do not sell or manufacture this... I posted KillerBee's email... he can answer all the questions... Im just making you guys aware of it:hello:

[Mike]

I'd say the potential for impeller wear is too great for my taste, pre-turbo. I'd also have to see what the pressures are for injection. Would you happen to have a link to other threads/posts showing more detailed research?

Thanks for sharing.

[hondarider552]

Mike I read over on dmaxforum injection pressures are 500 psi.

[OTHRGRL]

he has been testing it with good results... and he has done a ton of other inventions for the Dmax... he has a stock intake mod that is far superior to any aftermarket intake out there... with all of his numbers and testing on this, and seeing his numbers in person, i would stand behind this

Far superior when we are talking about stock turbo trucks that don't have the biggest demands for air.

I agree with most that spraying water in pre-turbo is not for me.

[NWTDIESEL]

Far superior when we are talking about stock turbo trucks that don't have the biggest demands for air.

I agree with most that spraying water in pre-turbo is not for me.

x2

although it does look kinda snazy....

[Crazy_Steve]

We all know how much you like snazzy!):h

[MMLMM]

Your open line made it sound like you had a friend invent this and I saw the pics and I was like WTF, thats Mike's (killerbees) lol, then I went down further and saw you were crediting him lol. ):h

[DunesRunner08]

i am not selling his stuff, I am not pushing, I just thought that was a hella cool idea and the numbers he is talking about are pretty nutz... i figured I would give him a little more exposure....

[dmaxman06]

http://www.maxxtorque.com/pre-turbo-water-injection


heres a write up about it that maxx torque did about the pre turbo fogger looks kool but why mess with a good thing with snow and the other guys i only know of the write up cuz i'm sucribed to the mag good mag to bad its only out 3 times a year