Micks Supercharged LLY

[mick]

This is a Thread about the experimenting Ive been doing with supercharging my 2004.5 LLY. I started with a GT42, Then a Vortech V4 into a GT45 where it made 733 with a mild tune and real low EGTs and timing, Then Vortech V4 on its own - went well down low but nothing up top as it maxed out at 30 psi but proved what I was looking for, Now has 2 Prochargers, just fired up 2 days ago, feels good but waiting on a little part from States before we tune and Dyno it. Sounds good too! My good friend Mike (member here) from San Angelo Tx. does all the tuning and helps alot with suggestions etc. Im positive this setup when sorted is going to go well. Any suggestions or criticisms are welcome.:)

Heres a short vid of 733 dyno with Super/Turbo setup

http://s261.photobucket.com/albums/ii74/Chevy_l88/?action=view&current=Mick733Dyno.flv



Heres a few more Vids and Pics

http://s235.photobucket.com/albums/ee104/GT42_2007/

[neversatisfied]

Your truck is sick.
Very nice:thumb:

[Mike]

I agree with you on the "Sick Truck" statement. :thumb:

This truck has not been run on the track since the supercharger / turbocharger or dual supercharger installations. I have logs showing his fatass rear tires breaking loose at around or over 100mph if anyone would like to view these EFI logs. Unbelievable power in what Mick has put together.
Mick does fantastic work. When a setup works well he continues to try new setups, even when one setup has not been pushed to its potential. I've had a blast over the past year or so and look forward to future "Maniac Mick Moments". Thanks for providing the "Wow" factor.

[RickDLance]

Very, VERY NICE!!:thumb:

[Fingers]

I always thought a 3.3 liter Whipple in the valley would be something!

Do the stacked Vortechs have staggered gearing or are they both running the same ratio?

[Mike]

I always thought a 3.3 liter Whipple in the valley would be something!

Do the stacked Vortechs have staggered gearing or are they both running the same ratio?

Ya, I think the 5.0L Whipple on his shelf is on the list of parts to try Fingers. We are giving the Prochargers a try at the moment. Both cog belt driven from a special built crank pulley. These chargers run different ratios that I'm sure will change a few times till they are dead on for cfm/psi.

[05smoker]

Holy fat tires Batman!):h

:thumb:

Sick does not describe it!

[blksmok]

That IS awesome! I can't wait to watch as this thing gets dialed in... :thumb:

[mick]

I always thought a 3.3 liter Whipple in the valley would be something!

Do the stacked Vortechs have staggered gearing or are they both running the same ratio?

What would you use for the top end boost?. Not many sc around that go over 40psi

The cog gearing is not relevant at the moment as the two chargers are different sizes anyway and ratios will be sorted as we go. So I guess theoretically they are staggered, not by gearing but by volume

[Northof900]

Nice!

[Fingers]

The whipple for instance, will compound very well, but the shaft seals can be an issue. (limits max manifold pressure to about 40PSI) The good part is they are positive displacement and come on even stronger than the ProChargers down low.

[Mike]

The whipple for instance, will compound very well, but the shaft seals can be an issue. (limits max manifold pressure to about 40PSI) The good part is they are positive displacement and come on even stronger than the ProChargers down low.

Oh, but what about this modified Whipple? These seals may be adapted well enough to survive. My fingers are crossed. lol


We really don't want this thing coming on any stronger. He broke his trans input shaft under 2000 rpm no problem. The big end is where we are now focusing our time. Down low has been scary.

[Kevin G]

I still say it's a good thing you're over there on the weird side of the world or I'd bring ol blue down and give you a spankin and I know you don't want none of that.....:boxing:
:lol:


Glad to see she's about ready to roll Mick.
I can't wait to hear and see that thing running again. :thumb:

[Mike]

The whipple for instance, will compound very well, but the shaft seals can be an issue. (limits max manifold pressure to about 40PSI) The good part is they are positive displacement and come on even stronger than the ProChargers down low.

Fingers, do you think it is possible to pressurize the seal as was done with the carburetor box in some super/turbo charged applications?

[Fingers]

The drive snout is the problem. Don't know what could be done there.

[mick]

I still say it's a good thing you're over there on the weird side of the world or I'd bring ol blue down and give you a spankin and I know you don't want none of that.....:boxing:
:lol:


Glad to see she's about ready to roll Mick.
I can't wait to hear and see that thing running again. :thumb:

You know Kev Id be more than happy to line you up Kev. I dont mind losing. do you? Come on down. Hows that new crank going? Ok I hope.

[Kevin G]

I've lost more times than I can count but I keep coming back for more.
If I was afraid to lose I'd have a lot more money in my toys and I wouldn't be lipping off to someone with a 900hp or so truck when I know I have maybe 650 on a good day....:beerchug::naughty:

Crank is holding up good so far, I bought another truck to drive so maybe I can keep the miles down on it this summer and pull it back apart this winter. I have a vibration that wasn't there before that I'd like to figure out.:( Kinda feels like the balancer is out of sync, but it's not???
It's got me stumped, everyone told me that the LB7 and LLY's had the same balance so I didn't do it, might kick me in the ass down the road now.:confuzeld:

[mick]

It's got me stumped, everyone told me that the LB7 and LLY's had the same balance so I didn't do it, might kick me in the ass down the road now.:confuzeld:

I HAVE A LB7 & A LLY BALANCER. I PUT THE LB7 ONE ON THE LLY AND THERE IS NO DIFFERENCE

[mick]

Heres A Link For The First Start Up With The Twin Sc's - Just A Prelim Run

Revision. I Removed That Vid. Just Found Out A Boost Tube Was Off So Will Do Another Vid Tomorrow. That Effort Was Pathetic To What Its Like Now.

[Josh2002cc]

OMG that sounds amazing! :thumb::thumb:

[RickDLance]

Very Nice!!:)

[blksmok]

That's gonna stand out in a crowd! :bow:
Nice work! :thumb:

[Mike]

I hear that thing is no longer sluggish as in the video. Vid to come.....

[mick]

I hear that thing is no longer sluggish as in the video. Vid to come.....



Real sluggish at the moment - Cracked the HB where the keyway goes. Getting a new one machined up and put 2 keys in

[Fingers]

Don't see that very often. Then again, you don't usually drive a set of superchargers off of the HB either. Billet piece is in your future.

[mick]

Don't see that very often. Then again, you don't usually drive a set of superchargers off of the HB either. Billet piece is in your future.

Good call for sure.

[mick]

Dont sound much like a duramax anymore ):h ):h


http://s235.photobucket.com/albums/ee104/GT42_2007/?action=view&current=DSCF0015.flv

[Kevin G]

Sounding good for sure Mick. Glad to see it's up and going again. :beerchug:

[mick]

Sounding good for sure Mick. Glad to see it's up and going again. :beerchug:

Thanks Kev - Mikes just refining the tuning at the moment - Then we'll be ready to RACE! :thumb:

[05smoker]

Thanks Kev - Mikes just refining the tuning at the moment - Then we'll be ready to RACE! :thumb:

Keep us posted!

Sounds awesome.):h

[Mike]

Wow, I got to see it again. And the sound..... :thumb:

[blksmok]

That thing sounds awesome! Can't wait to see/hear it run some competitions!

[Mike]

That thing sounds awesome! Can't wait to see/hear it run some competitions!

I agree. I'm gonna have to beg borrow and steal to get over there and touch that thing. Working on it over the internet/phone takes some patients and I'm about out of that. Wow am I excited. Can't imagine Mick's excitement.

[minisub]

Finally remembered to check this from home were I can get to the vid - sounds sweet.

Nice gauge package you got there on the dash too....I'd probably crash trying to keep track of that much info...):h

[jb23]

Mick your truck is awesome, show us more the sound it has is incredible great job

[mick]

Thanks all. Just ironing out a few details at the moment but overall we are pretty happy about the project but as always its not the big things that are a problem. Its always the little things :)

[Mike]

" It's always the little things " And how do they seem so dang big when faced with them.

One issue we are dealing with is that engine responding as if it desires to be self ejected from the engine compartment. We feel we have this under control with a solution in the mail. Once this is understood completely and eliminated, we will move on to adding more power.

What a ride right Mick... ):h

And the tuning..... Every cell has a purpose for sure -:t :(

[heathgu]

Hey mike and mick,

How is it all going, sounds like you are starting to iron it out. I must say i have seen this thing in person and man it is crazy truck. A real credit to mick.

Cant wait to go for a spin.

Talk to you soon ):h

Cheers Heath

[subman]

Well dumb ass me, I was watching the video and trying to figure out why everything looked reverse, (which it is of course) I read in the signature red neck texan and was even more confused, (which is easy for me in my advanced years). Forgot to looked in the upper right where the location is posted. Great sounding truck. Subman

[mick]

Well dumb ass me, I was watching the video and trying to figure out why everything looked reverse, (which it is of course) I read in the signature red neck texan and was even more confused, (which is easy for me in my advanced years). Forgot to looked in the upper right where the location is posted. Great sounding truck. Subman

Thanks. When I want to feel like you guys I take this one out. Its what we call a Left Hooker over here

[mick]

Hey mike and mick,

How is it all going, sounds like you are starting to iron it out. I must say i have seen this thing in person and man it is crazy truck. A real credit to mick.

Cant wait to go for a spin.

Talk to you soon ):h

Cheers Heath

Its all going good Heath. Waiting for some New Pulleys from the States, should be here today or tomorrow. Ill be coming for a run up there as soon as to bring those parts you lent me. Wont be long and you and me will be at the track. Hows that crazy Nissan/Duramax going? Looking forard to seeing it run at Willowbank

[Mike]

Hey mike and mick,

How is it all going, sounds like you are starting to iron it out. I must say i have seen this thing in person and man it is crazy truck. A real credit to mick.

Cant wait to go for a spin.

Talk to you soon ):h

Cheers Heath

Hello Heath. How's your truck going? Have you been able to iron out that traction problem with your truck? Can't wait to hear how your drive in Mick's truck goes.

See again soon.

[heathgu]

Hey guys,

I have not driven my truck since i when down to micks place. I have been away in a 4x4 comp out in the middle of australia on a station near white cliffs.

Other then that it seems to be going ok. Yeah the traction problem i am still sorting out. Just looking at some slicks at the moment, not sure on exactly what size to run. I run 4.11 diff gears so i need a taller tyre to make it work good.

Other then that i cant wait to go for a ride in the twin supercharged beast should be awesome.

Cheers Heath

[mick]

Hey guys,

I have not driven my truck since i when down to micks place. I have been away in a 4x4 comp out in the middle of australia on a station near white cliffs.

Other then that it seems to be going ok. Yeah the traction problem i am still sorting out. Just looking at some slicks at the moment, not sure on exactly what size to run. I run 4.11 diff gears so i need a taller tyre to make it work good.

Other then that i cant wait to go for a ride in the twin supercharged beast should be awesome.

Cheers Heath

Wont be long now Heath. Mikes working hard on the tuning and we are making milage by the day. That Suncoast 5 is nearly run in and the other pump is on. Heres a vid at last week before we started getting into it :)

http://s235.photobucket.com/albums/ee104/GT42_2007/?action=view&current=DSCF0030.flv

[Mike]

:thumb:

[Nick]

Love that sound ):h

Keep it up guys!

[RickDLance]

Keep the videos coming! :)

[blksmok]

That's awesome. That truck looks and sounds bad ass! :thumb:

[Mike]

Love that sound ):h

Keep it up guys!



And that thing has mufflers on it.

And the performance. Only 3/4 throttle and no required brake stand to build boost. Put the foot down and bam, gone. We had to do some transmission tuning " Thanks Kevin G." and some other minor tuning to get to the point we are now but we have run out of fuel and a second pump is going on now. So, more to be had , Way More, with the second pump. Mick's hoping to get a video of the latest changes soon but his son has been out of town and he's the real camera man. Thanks Danny.

[mick]

And that thing has mufflers on it.

And the performance. Only 3/4 throttle and no required brake stand to build boost. Put the foot down and bam, gone. We had to do some transmission tuning " Thanks Kevin G." and some other minor tuning to get to the point we are now but we have run out of fuel and a second pump is going on now. So, more to be had , Way More, with the second pump. Mick's hoping to get a video of the latest changes soon but his son has been out of town and he's the real camera man. Thanks Danny.

Second Pump is on now Mike so this weekend we will be getting more serious with the Tuning. Thanks Mike and thanks to to Kev from here (KevinG) for that trans tune - Great

[Kevin G]

No problem Guys, I'm just glad to finally be a part of that truck.:clap:


:beerchug:

[Mike]

No problem Guys, I'm just glad to finally be a part of that truck.:clap:


:beerchug:

What? Had no idea you cared..... Just kidding, thanks for helping at 2am in the morning.... :thumb:

[BRS]

Sweet Truck man, absolutely gorgeous!!

Where on earth did you get the rear wheels? And what size tire is that out back :thumb:

I look forward to seeing the progress!

[mick]

Sweet Truck man, absolutely gorgeous!!

Where on earth did you get the rear wheels? And what size tire is that out back :thumb:

I look forward to seeing the progress!


Thanks. Rear Wheels are Intro 20x15. with 10'' Offset Rubber is MT 18.5

[jb23]

Hows that truck coming along Mick, she running strong

[mick]

Hows that truck coming along Mick, she running strong

We have had alot of small problems that have been addressed. Truck is running super smooth on the street thanks to Mikes tuning. It goes on the dyno Thursday just to see what is at the wheels. Its a bit hard to tell although it feels more than the 733 we had with Super/Turbo setup. Still have a lot of tuning to go as its a totally different animal now. With the 2nd CP3 running now its making a big difference. will let you know on Thursday how we go :thumb:

[keith2500hd]

mick, now with 2 SC what are you running for exhaust, know you got 4 tips. have you replaced factory manifolds. sounds sweet.

[mick]

mick, now with 2 SC what are you running for exhaust, know you got 4 tips. have you replaced factory manifolds. sounds sweet.

Still using the SS Headers from when the turbo/sc was on but Ive cut them back at the uppipes and running twin 3" to the rear. When my C10 Headers are finished they will be building a new set for this truck - they will be alot bigger all the way.

[mick]

Well we done a couple of Dyno Runs the other day but could not get traction. At a bit over 600 it would just break loose. We had it tied down as much as we could on their setup but we didn't have the time to get some weight for in the bed.(or enough sumos handy) It for sure has more than the 733 we had last time. At the moment we have come a long way the past few weeks and this thing will haul some serious ass once it's right. As far as the rumours Mike started on another thread, Myself, Wife and 12 y.o. son are contemplating going for a trip to the States next year. We have to make sure we can drive our Right Hand Drive on the roads there as we want to bring her over (makes it easier for Mike to tune) Wenwould be going to Texas and work everything else out from there. We are in the early process of getting another engine built and ideally we want to have that up and running before we left. Here is a pic of current situation under hood.

[James Hess]

Hey bud all is good for right hand drive in Texas last i knew. So long as you have all the safety equipment and signals your good. I knew a couple of fellas with right hand drive cars one of them happened to be a right hand drive ford falcon and that thing was sick. <--It came from aussi as well. By the way again that truck is SICK!! What time yall think you will be in Texas cause i might have to plan a trip home lol, where abouts does mike live?

[mick]

Sound Sweet James. First stop will be San Angelo thats for sure.

[James Hess]

Road Trip Haha just need to know when cause i want a first hand look at this thing. ):h

[Mike]

Well we done a couple of Dyno Runs the other day but could not get traction. At a bit over 600 it would just break loose. We had it tied down as much as we could on their setup but we didn't have the time to get some weight for in the bed.(or enough sumos handy) It for sure has more than the 733 we had last time. At the moment we have come a long way the past few weeks and this thing will haul some serious ass once it's right. As far as the rumours Mike started on another thread, Myself, Wife and 12 y.o. son are contemplating going for a trip to the States next year. We have to make sure we can drive our Right Hand Drive on the roads there as we want to bring her over (makes it easier for Mike to tune) Wenwould be going to Texas and work everything else out from there. We are in the early process of getting another engine built and ideally we want to have that up and running before we left. Here is a pic of current situation under hood.

Oops, sorry to get that rumour started. Na, really I'm not. Can't wait put my eyes and hands on the truck after soooo much time watching it on videos and logs. You know I gotta drive it to tune it properly ;) Can't wait to see you and your family.

[James Hess]

You know I gotta drive it to tune it properly ;)

Of course ):h there is no other way.

[HotRodSS]

Mick, what kind of hood did you put on there? I like the way it looks. ):h

[mick]

Mick, what kind of hood did you put on there? I like the way it looks. ):h

That Hood is from Suncoast Creations with another couple of holes and vents by me. All glass, its heavier than the stock steel one. I think Keith NG has same one.

[Kevin G]

Oops, sorry to get that rumour started. Na, really I'm not. Can't wait put my eyes and hands on the truck after soooo much time watching it on videos and logs. You know I gotta drive it to tune it properly ;) Can't wait to see you and your family.


Going to have to let me know a date and time to make plans to come down. I wouldn't miss it for anything. I've been looking forward to meeting you and your family Mick, I sure hope you guys can make it over. I've been planning on a visit to Mikes place every since he made the trip up here with his kids last spring, and if I could do it while you guys are in town that would make for an awesome trip. :D
Gonna be a good feeling to finally get to lay the smack down on the ol red rocket too.....:boxing:
The only problem is when you catch up to me, (I plan on taking off when you light the staging bulb ;)), you'll be sitting on the side closest to me so I'll have to see you laughing at me on the way by...:duh:):h

Seriously though I'm looking forward to coming down and seeing your place, and you guys again Mike, Tell your kids the next time they come up to stay here they'll all have their own bed to sleep in, we've got a little more room than we did last time. Maybe get the wife to come too. We can hook her to a sled or find her a strip to run on somewhere surely. :naughty: :D

[Mike]

Going to have to let me know a date and time to make plans to come down. I wouldn't miss it for anything. I've been looking forward to meeting you and your family Mick, I sure hope you guys can make it over. I've been planning on a visit to Mikes place every since he made the trip up here with his kids last spring, and if I could do it while you guys are in town that would make for an awesome trip. :D
Gonna be a good feeling to finally get to lay the smack down on the ol red rocket too.....:boxing:
The only problem is when you catch up to me, (I plan on taking off when you light the staging bulb ;)), you'll be sitting on the side closest to me so I'll have to see you laughing at me on the way by...:duh:):h

Seriously though I'm looking forward to coming down and seeing your place, and you guys again Mike, Tell your kids the next time they come up to stay here they'll all have their own bed to sleep in, we've got a little more room than we did last time. Maybe get the wife to come too. We can hook her to a sled or find her a strip to run on somewhere surely. :naughty: :D

Sounds good Kevin, the kids are still taking about the trip up there. Hopefully the next time we make the trip it won't have rained so much. I'll certainly be making the trip next time with the wife. She just doesn't know it yet.

[mick]

Going to have to let me know a date and time to make plans to come down. I wouldn't miss it for anything. I've been looking forward to meeting you and your family Mick, I sure hope you guys can make it over. I've been planning on a visit to Mikes place every since he made the trip up here with his kids last spring, and if I could do it while you guys are in town that would make for an awesome trip. :D
Gonna be a good feeling to finally get to lay the smack down on the ol red rocket too.....:boxing:
The only problem is when you catch up to me, (I plan on taking off when you light the staging bulb ;)), you'll be sitting on the side closest to me so I'll have to see you laughing at me on the way by...:duh:):h

Seriously though I'm looking forward to coming down and seeing your place, and you guys again Mike, Tell your kids the next time they come up to stay here they'll all have their own bed to sleep in, we've got a little more room than we did last time. Maybe get the wife to come too. We can hook her to a sled or find her a strip to run on somewhere surely. :naughty: :D

Thanks alot there Kev. Sorry Ive been away awhile, had bad virus nearly over it now. Sure are hoping on making it over there for a few weeks. Really want to have the new engine in and running though. I dont mind you beating me in a race Kev. Thats ok. Just dont be sad if you lose either :)

[Kevin G]

Yeah Mike told me you were in pretty bad shape with some kind of sickness. Glad to hear your doing better now.:)

The only way I'd be able to beat you, or even keep up with you for that matter, in a race was if you left it in 2nd gear and then gave me a head start Mick.):h
It doesn't hurt my feelings to get beat, because I always figure somewhere their will always be someone faster, even if you have to go to the other side of the world to find them.:lol:

[jonathancasey19]

id be terrified to know how much $$$$ went into that thing......WOW

[mick]

Just an update for those interested. I have been running the truck with twin prochargers up front and back into a GT45 in the tub for a while now. I dont use it for shopping so its ok. Heres a couple of pics. Excuse the rough work as its not finished until I settle on what system is going to stay, then Ill clean everything up. (Whenever thats going to be) And heres a link to a little C10 Longbed I bought last week. Currently looking for a BBC to put into it. Probably put a 502 or a 572 like in my 65. his one has full Airbags, A/C etc etc

http://www.rolyleahycustomimports.com/inv/0808-71c10pickup.html

[James Hess]

You put alot of work into this thing Mick, definatly something to see in person. :thumb:

That is one CLEAN C10 ill be curious to see how it turns out after seeing your Dmax.

[neversatisfied]

That is wicked.
How much boost?

[Mike]

That is wicked.
How much boost?


Believe it or not Josh, he can't get the traction to find out. Once the compounding starts, the tires go and he's holding on for dear life.

Mick, didn't you say you like this setup for a daily driver?. I know he says his truck now is very dependable and fun to drive. Go figure. Keep it going Mick.


Thanks for the update.

edit: Mick, give us the bad news....

[mick]

That is wicked.
How much boost?

65 with the one turbo and 45

[mick]

I know he says his truck now is very DEPENDABLE and fun to drive. Go Keep it going Mick.




edit: Mick, give us the bad news....[/QUOTE]



Shit happens. I was going up to visit the guy doing the compliance on my 71 and was taking the truck up to show off to him. I want to get them into Diesel Drags. They currently run some of the fastest cars in the country. One has 57 Chev D/slammer thats been the fastest and 2nd fastest for a few years now. Stopped at a set of lights and some hot looking JapCrap pulled up beside me, the passenger gives me the thumbs down. Then he says "Looks nice but does it go?" I say "It goes ok" Light goes and were away. He stays with me as Im frying the tyres up the road, then as I start to pull away - BANG - and he wins the race :( Engine kept running as I got a place to pull over - Have a few cracks in (your) Drivers side of block about half way down. But I must say I am not really that disappointed after all the Hell that thing has been through - Time to make something bigger and stronger and try again. Hopefully it wont take too long. Thanks for all of your support till now. Especially Mike with all the hours youve spent helping me not only on this project but the others we have going as well. Thanks Mate :thumb:Time to get serious now though :thumb:

[RickDLance]

Sorry to hear it. :( Great attitude on your part though! Go for the 3B's! Bigger, Better, Badder!:thumb:

[James Hess]

LOL that sucks and not to try laugh at you but it was funny that you said you were roasting your tires and still pulling away from him, Gotta love these trucks!! :thumb: :thumb:

[mick]

As Arny says "I'll be back" :thumb:

[neversatisfied]

I'm afraid to see what you come back with. I'm sure it will be wild coming from you and Mike

[Mike]

I know he says his truck now is very DEPENDABLE and fun to drive. Go Keep it going Mick.




edit: Mick, give us the bad news....[/QUOTE]



Shit happens. I was going up to visit the guy doing the compliance on my 71 and was taking the truck up to show off to him. I want to get them into Diesel Drags. They currently run some of the fastest cars in the country. One has 57 Chev D/slammer thats been the fastest and 2nd fastest for a few years now. Stopped at a set of lights and some hot looking JapCrap pulled up beside me, the passenger gives me the thumbs down. Then he says "Looks nice but does it go?" I say "It goes ok" Light goes and were away. He stays with me as Im frying the tyres up the road, then as I start to pull away - BANG - and he wins the race :( Engine kept running as I got a place to pull over - Have a hole in (your) Drivers side of block about half way down. But I must say I am not really that disappointed after all the Hell that thing has been through - Time to make something bigger and stronger and try again. Hopefully it wont take too long. Thanks for all of your support till now. Especially Mike with all the hours youve spent helping me not only on this project but the others we have going as well. Thanks Mate :thumb:Time to get serious now though :thumb:

Yes Mick we've had fun. Lots of ups and downs and back ups. But now, all the stops have been removed and the new engine will take the abuse we've been holding back. Say good bye to mild and get ready for wild. I personally can't wait.


Every hour has been worth it. Way more to come. Thanks Mick for these opportunities.

[mick]

Heres a couple of pics - Looks like no 7 tried to get out - Nearly did. Popped the bolts out of the filter housing during the process. We will see more when we open it up

[Kevin G]

You guys on the other side of the world always have everything bass-akwards don't you... #7 is on the other side of the engine on a D-max isn't it? I think 1 is on the right hand side instead of the left on these. Unless they had all mine in on the wrong side. I guess maybe your filter is on the wrong side just like your drivers seat is....:naughty:
:D:D:D

[Kevin G]

But anyways...Hows it coming? Get it tore down and figured out yet, or just waiting on a new full built stroker or something like that to play with? I hear you got plans already...Maybe an early Xmas present to yourself maybe...:D

[mick]

I dont know what Number Cylinder it is Kev. I thought they were same as gasser but nobody has enlightened me yet and I havent done the research, but its the one right under (your) drivers feet. Havent pulled it out yet as I still have the 65 on my lift at home. Should be finished tomorrow and will put the Duramax on and pull the motor. I have a Built 6.6 leaving Wisconsin on a plane on the 8th of Dec that has all the good gear including Custom Cam and will be running some fairly high boost. We will be doing a Stroker when a few other things are sorted out. We may put that in a single cab and dedicate it more to the track than the street though. But we are hoping this one will be on the road again close to new year. Hope your pulling is going good for you Kev :hello:

[mick]

According to WikiAnswers #1 is left front when your standing in front of the bumper. So I guess it is #8 I have broken, on a gas it would be #7. I learned a little more today ..............):h

[minisub]

Yep. The Dmax cylinder numbering is "backwards." Just another one of those things that makes you go Hmmm...

[Kevin G]

According to WikiAnswers #1 is left front when your standing in front of the bumper. So I guess it is #8 I have broken, on a gas it would be #7. I learned a little more today ..............):h

I pulled all the pistons out of one, numbered them and started to clean em up, then noticed that my #8 piston had #7 stamped on the rod....:confused:
Then I looked at the block on the stand and sure enough offset the opposite way than I was used to...):h



Anyways my pulling is done for a while. I broke a piston, and at first thought no big deal just throw another in and go. Then pulled it out and said "Well that's not good. That rod's hatin life right about now." so I thought I better check out the rest. They all look just like that one.
I figure I should take care of this little problem before someone has to help me pick up all the pieces. :) ):h

On a side note I just have to get this off my chest.... Here I was thinking I might have something for you when I finally get the chance to race ya and you have to go and one up me with the full built motor.....I see how it is...
I'll just have get a bottle and have Mike ride with me. We'll run the hose into the air filter and I'll tell him to open the bottle when I let off the brakes. I think I might stand a chance...what da ya think???:naughty:):h

[Mike]

Mick, tell us how the truck is going and when you expect to have it rolling again?

[Crazy_Steve]

I pulled all the pistons out of one, numbered them and started to clean em up, then noticed that my #8 piston had #7 stamped on the rod....:confused:
Then I looked at the block on the stand and sure enough offset the opposite way than I was used to...):h



Anyways my pulling is done for a while. I broke a piston, and at first thought no big deal just throw another in and go. Then pulled it out and said "Well that's not good. That rod's hatin life right about now." so I thought I better check out the rest. They all look just like that one.
I figure I should take care of this little problem before someone has to help me pick up all the pieces. :) ):h

On a side note I just have to get this off my chest.... Here I was thinking I might have something for you when I finally get the chance to race ya and you have to go and one up me with the full built motor.....I see how it is...
I'll just have get a bottle and have Mike ride with me. We'll run the hose into the air filter and I'll tell him to open the bottle when I let off the brakes. I think I might stand a chance...what da ya think???:naughty:):h

Now thats a ROD!

[mick]

Well we should be back on the road again this week depending if my new diff arrives or not. This is the new engine built by Curtis Halviston and hopefully will see some numbers to match all the good gear thats gone into it. Big thanks to Heath who drove down from North Coast on Saturday to help me with the install. :thumb:

[RickDLance]

Keep up the amazing work do there!! :thumb:

[mick]

Keep up the amazing work do there!! :thumb:

Thanks Rick and I just have to say by the way how good a site this has been developing into the past few months. Getting some good depth here these days. you are all doing a good job at the helm there :thumb: Wish i had more to contribute though :(

[MAXLLY]

Mick,

Truck looks great, my hats off to you.


OT- The barrel IC you turned me onto is better than i had hoped. Thank you.

[TheHoov]

What an amazing truck!

Its giving me ideas for the future.

HooV

[Mike]

Well we should be back on the road again this week depending if my new diff arrives or not. This is the new engine built by Curtis Halviston and hopefully will see some numbers to match all the good gear thats gone into it. Big thanks to Heath who drove down from North Coast on Saturday to help me with the install. :thumb:

That crank pulley looks really good Mick. Can't wait till you're up and running. Post up when you get to fire her up.

:thumb:

[RickDLance]

Thanks for being a part of it! :)

[mick]

Mick,

Truck looks great, my hats off to you.


OT- The barrel IC you turned me onto is better than i had hoped. Thank you.

Thanks James but my detailing isnt as good as yours. Glad that IC is working for you. I get nearly 10deg cooler than stock with my setup and the Water/Air Barrel

[mick]

What an amazing truck!

Its giving me ideas for the future.

HooV

Thanks It is good to see others thinking drastic changes :thumb: :thumb:

[mick]

That crank pulley looks really good Mick. Can't wait till you're up and running. Post up when you get to fire her up.

:thumb:

He done a nice job of the pulley Mike but hell at $4,730 ($US3,030) it would want to be. Keep in mind though it is checked out to go onto the ATI Balancer which is alot more work than when we put the other one onto the Stock Balancer. Should be firing up tomorrow. Wish me luck ;)

[mick]

Thanks for being a part of it! :)

We should be a lot more a part of it soon when we get this sorted Rick - Without Blowing my own trumpet, this engine according to all the specs has got to be one of the toughest Duramaxes on the planet. We will see soon :thumb: :thumb:

[TheHoov]

Hey Mick,

I was going through this thread again and i saw that you have something (GT45) in the bead of your truck? Are you still running the 2 SC and the GT45? Or could you just run the 2 SC by themselves?

HooV

[MAXLLY]

Thanks James but my detailing isnt as good as yours. Glad that IC is working for you. I get nearly 10deg cooler than stock with my setup and the Water/Air Barrel

If you are not satisfied with that let me know. I have (IMO) a combo that'll give you better than 10 degrees and flatten/recover from spikes almost instantly. Not bashing, tryin to help a brotha out.

The Redneck :) may have something for review/comparison.

Later and good luck on start up/break in.:thumb:

[mick]

Hey Mick,

I was going through this thread again and i saw that you have something (GT45) in the bead of your truck? Are you still running the 2 SC and the GT45? Or could you just run the 2 SC by themselves?

HooV

This time around we are starting with 1xProcharger SC into the GT45 in the bed. We may go back to 2xSC into the GT45 but wont be going SC on their own. 2xSC on their own would not give us the boost required topend. They were great down low, but because of the inflated figures of the SC company, they would not give us enough even when compounded up top. These Chargers are advertised at 38psi. At full impeller speeds we could not get them to get to even half of that. Watch out for the setup that Mike is doing on his LB7 - coming soon...... :thumb:

[mick]

If you are not satisfied with that let me know. I have (IMO) a combo that'll give you better than 10 degrees and flatten/recover from spikes almost instantly. Not bashing, tryin to help a brotha out.

The Redneck :) may have something for review/comparison.

Later and good luck on start up/break in.:thumb:


I'll listen to anything you have to offer thanks James. Keep in mind that we were going 65 lbs boost which tends to get a bit hotter than normal and we are looking for 80+ with this new setup. Any help or contributing ideas are always wecome. Thanks Mate :)

[EDP]

looking good:thumb::thumb:

let me know if you need another pulley we found a pretty reasonable place to have our pulleys made and designed for our little projects we got cooking):h

[TheHoov]

This time around we are starting with 1xProcharger SC into the GT45 in the bed. We may go back to 2xSC into the GT45 but wont be going SC on their own. 2xSC on their own would not give us the boost required topend. They were great down low, but because of the inflated figures of the SC company, they would not give us enough even when compounded up top. These Chargers are advertised at 38psi. At full impeller speeds we could not get them to get to even half of that. Watch out for the setup that Mike is doing on his LB7 - coming soon...... :thumb:

Ohhh k now i get it. The Gt45 is for the high psi and the SC are for the "get off and go" psi. I would love to have a set up like this, but i use the bed all the time soo i would have to find some where else for the GT45 which is near impossible cuz of howbig it is! haha Thanks for the answers. Love the truck!

Mike please post pics of your build too when its finished!!

HooV

[mick]

looking good:thumb::thumb:

let me know if you need another pulley we found a pretty reasonable place to have our pulleys made and designed for our little projects we got cooking):h

I will definately talk to yo on that one next time chad. Thanks. By the way when are we going to see something out of the ordinary out of that shop there?

[mick]

Ohhh k now i get it. The Gt45 is for the high psi and the SC are for the "get off and go" psi. I would love to have a set up like this, but i use the bed all the time soo i would have to find some where else for the GT45 which is near impossible cuz of howbig it is! haha Thanks for the answers. Love the truck!

Mike please post pics of your build too when its finished!!

HooV

You got it. The 45 will fit under the hood with one sc - bit harder with 2 though. Maybe heading back there yet not sure

[EDP]

I will definately talk to yo on that one next time chad. Thanks. By the way when are we going to see something out of the ordinary out of that shop there?


Soon!!! some super sercret squirally stuff should soon be out with video and pics. The Big Bastard LMM is still in mock up stage but getting closer every day. Lots of one off custom parts.

[mick]

Fired up last night - sounds sweet as... waiting on a diff should be here early next week.....

[mick]

Soon!!! some super sercret squirally stuff should soon be out with video and pics. The Big Bastard LMM is still in mock up stage but getting closer every day. Lots of one off custom parts.

Eager to see what you got going there Chad??

[jonathancasey19]

......video....cough...cough....):h

[Mike]

I've got some pictures I took a while back and will be happy to post as I come across them. I'll be taking some pictures soon and promise they will not depict as good a job as Micks project. My project has been on going and has changed a couple of times. My latest changes have included a stray cat catastrophe. Micks projects have been absolutely amazing.


As Mick has mentioned, we have not been able to duplicate advertised ratings on a gauge, normal gauge this is. Best I can calculate or surmise, these are absolute ratings. Meaning manifold Gauge(a), gauge reading calibrated at sea level plus ambient pressure at sea level.

I want to add we are not giving negative rating towards or against any Procharger number. We went into our projects before we had an absolute understanding with what we expected to gain using numbers we thought we new meanings for. We now know, to our best knowledge, what these advertised numbers mean.

These Prochargers have given us our best performance so far.


This time around we are starting with 1xProcharger SC into the GT45 in the bed. We may go back to 2xSC into the GT45 but wont be going SC on their own. 2xSC on their own would not give us the boost required topend. They were great down low, but because of the inflated figures of the SC company, they would not give us enough even when compounded up top. These Chargers are advertised at 38psi. At full impeller speeds we could not get them to get to even half of that. Watch out for the setup that Mike is doing on his LB7 - coming soon...... :thumb:



Ohhh k now i get it. The Gt45 is for the high psi and the SC are for the "get off and go" psi. I would love to have a set up like this, but i use the bed all the time soo i would have to find some where else for the GT45 which is near impossible cuz of howbig it is! haha Thanks for the answers. Love the truck!

Mike please post pics of your build too when its finished!!

HooV

[MAXLLY]

Ohhh k now i get it. The Gt45 is for the high psi and the SC are for the "get off and go" psi. I would love to have a set up like this, but i use the bed all the time soo i would have to find some where else for the GT45 which is near impossible cuz of howbig it is! haha Thanks for the answers. Love the truck!

Mike please post pics of your build too when its finished!!

HooV

If you move your fuel tank to the back a 45 will fit under the cab.....

Not sure how it would plumb, but it'll fit.):h

[mick]

I have a problem with codes 0340 and 0341 at the moment. They are both cam sensor codes. I have changed probe, changed wiring, squeezed connectors in ecu, to no avail. Engine will start sometimes and when it does it will hunt a few times and then run normal, but then when I switch it off and go to restart it, it will crank and crank and crank and no go. Then leave it for a while and delete the codes and it will start again. Anybody had this problem?

[Fingers]

Sounds like a bad clearance on the cam reluctor.

[Mike]

Sounds like a bad clearance on the cam reluctor.

We checked voltages to the sensor and found the 5v to be 5.05 and the .2 volt low reference to be .01 v. Thanks Jon.

[Mike]

We are glad to say the problem has been figured out and will be corrected soon. Jon thank you for your help. Priceless to say the least.

Damn sensors, components and wire locations -:t So, more to report soon. Thanks again for the help.

[mick]

Sounds like a bad clearance on the cam reluctor.

Sorry I never got around to clarifying what the problem was there John. You were right it was a clearance problem on the reluctor plate. Im in Australia and the reluctor plate was in Wisconsin - just too far to pick up the signal ):h

[Fingers]

That's a little out of spec......

[mick]

Project No 17 or No 18 not quite sure. I have had this Whipple Twin Screw sitting here for nearly 2 years. It was originally going to go on an LB7 engine I bought. After playing with the Centrifugals for a while and seeing Mika do an Eaton with Turbos, I thought I would put this one on. I am waiting for a set of heads from Curtis to arrive, then I will put this setup on that engine and put it back in the Red Truck with a Turbo and the Whipple. All going well it will be on the road in a couple of weeks, all the hard work has been done. Thanks to Banks Engineering for the Runners

[RickDLance]

All I can say is WOW! :thumb:

That sure seems to be over driven a lot. ):h

[mick]

All I can say is WOW! :thumb:

That sure seems to be over driven a lot. ):h

Keep in mind we are only doing 4000 rpm. Even with that setup as it is I will probably have to go a larger crank Pulley

[EDP]

looking good mick:thumb:

[mick]

looking good mick:thumb:

Totally unchartered territory for me Chad. Running it at pretty low speed with 1 Turbo at this stage. Dont know what to expect - the Whipple may be too big, but it will be interesting. A bit like yours. What size is that Blower of yours by the way? cfm? rpm? type rotors? Looks sweet though, really hoping it goes well for you - must have spent some hours on it now (and bucks) :thumb:

[Fingers]

I've been eying up a 4 liter W245-AX for my next project. I intend to run the bypass valve using the VVT electronics to control the boost. Only need to spin it 2 times crank to get a 2 times pressure ratio. 3 times crank to provide 30 PSI all the way to red line. THEN add a honking turbo to feed the screw.

But, what do I know.

[mick]

Looks like we may be on the same wavelink there Fingers. Thats a 5 litre 305AX I have. Will start off with the GT45 up its backside. Been discussing with Mike how we can put one of the electronic wastegates I have on there and control it through efi. Nice that they have the holes machined in the body for a bipass valve. :thumb:

[Fingers]

There are equiv spec servo motors to the VVT available that could drive the bypass. Add a position sensor, and you have mimicked the VVT system enough that the ECM can run it.

[mick]

There are equiv spec servo motors to the VVT available that could drive the bypass. Add a position sensor, and you have mimicked the VVT system enough that the ECM can run it.

Might have to quiz you on that one later. The present setup will only spin that SC to app 13,000 rpm at max eng rpm and its capable of 22,000. We may not need a blowoff at all, depends how soon the 45 comes on I guess (and how efficient the SC is from what and up to what rpm)

[Fingers]

Do you have a cooler of any sort after the SC?

[mick]

Not as yet. At this stage I will be trying a new cooling system after the turbo into the whipple. Hoping it to be like a fridge before it goes into it. :)

[Mike]

Looks like Banks is into dmax supercharging. 1st picture.


Similar to Micks latest. Thanks for the intake Gale. Second picture.

[EDP]

howd ya come across that pic?

[Mike]

howd ya come across that pic?

What is your email address, I'll forward the email I got from them. It was a spam email or blasted to all that have purchased from them I guess.

[EDP]

sales@empiredieselperformance.com

Looks like the superchargers are starting to be some pretty good attention. Guess Mick, yourself, and us most be doing something right....:thumb:

[Mike]

Email sent, I had to dig it out of the junk ( spam ) folder. Mick also received it. He's purchased from them as well. I don't know, but check your spam folder.

[RickDLance]

http://www.dieselplace.com/forum/showpost.php?p=3602920&postcount=110