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Nick
05-20-2008, 09:32 AM
Not that I don't appreciate the way a suncoast 3 or 4 shifts, I do.

It's just that sometimes I have to learn things the hard way on account of morbid curiosity. I put one of these $600 dollar converters in my truck and I've been abusing it for a while now at the 900 Ft/lb level. The truck seems to shift well, not as positive as a suncoast 4 - but I can't complain.

I usually roll around with the converter locked because I don't trust it not to balloon. Whether that's a realistic concern, I don't know. I just know it holds in lockup pretty well and I hope it continues to do so.

I'm curious if anyone else has put these no name converters through the paces and what the results have been.

I'll be honest, I'm no Allison expert. If I'm off my hinges, let me know.

Nick
Mike L.
05-20-2008, 09:43 AM
What brand is it?
Nick
05-21-2008, 08:34 AM
Mike,

I'll have to get ahold of the local guy I got it from, see if he remembers. Are there better off-brand names?

Nick
Mike L.
05-21-2008, 02:41 PM
I have no idea if any of these no-name triples are any good. I know most of them are using gas cores and machining the stator to achieve lower stall. If they actually are using an Allison core there will be no ballooning to worry about. I know the billet covers are coming from India but don't know which clutch setup they are using. PI sells their covers and clutch packs for about 378.00 for there big customers so we know you are not running one of those for 600.00. I do know we are about to see triple converters come out of the woodwork starting at 450.00 and up to the wholesalers.
Nick
05-23-2008, 10:34 AM
Performance Plus was the name on the box... I probably got taken for a ride on the price.

I am curious though.

Nick

http://www.bulkpart.com/DaccoInfo.html

http://www.bulkpart.com/Merchant2/merchant.mvc?Screen=PROD&Store_Code=2&Product_Code=DC-1000&Category_Code=Allison-1000tc&Product_Count=0
Schwinn68
05-31-2008, 09:10 PM
are any of these no name converters going to be any good. It would be nice if the price could come down as they are the biggest expense in a trans build. I also know that you get what you pay for and the cost is from all the testing the goes into these along with someone who stands behind there product.
TheBac
06-01-2008, 07:24 PM
I could never figure out the justification for a $1300 price on a converter, even if it says "diesel" on it. Just doesnt seem to me that theres that much work into it.
jb23
06-01-2008, 08:08 PM
Any one have some thoughts on precision converters or have used them how well they hold up
racinmike77
06-01-2008, 08:13 PM
Any one have some thoughts on precision converters or have used them how well they hold up

If you are referring to the Mike L i heard its top notch from multiple tranny guys.
jb23
06-01-2008, 08:31 PM
racinmike77

Thank you wasn't for sure on who handled precision, came across the name few days a go. Will ask Mike L on his thoughts
RickDLance
06-01-2008, 08:43 PM
I've had a Precision and a Suncoast. I liked the Suncoast best, but Mike was checking to see if the place I got the Precision from ordered me the wrong model by mistake.
racinmike77
06-01-2008, 09:03 PM
yes Mike L had precision build a converter to his specs, it has been highly reccomended to me and is slightly cheaper than the suncoast units.
neversatisfied
06-01-2008, 11:42 PM
I cant comlpain about my Precision. I ran a SC 1057 before this one.
TheBac
06-02-2008, 06:00 AM
Any one have some thoughts on precision converters or have used them how well they hold up

I have one of them. I think its one of the first ones they shipped to Merchant. Cant complain about the way it works with the transmission based on the racing/pulling I've done.

But I do get a whine from it when the trans is cold. I dont like that, but nothing I can do about it.
Mike L.
06-02-2008, 09:42 AM
I have one of them. I think its one of the first ones they shipped to Merchant. Cant complain about the way it works with the transmission based on the racing/pulling I've done.

But I do get a whine from it when the trans is cold. I dont like that, but nothing I can do about it.

Never heard an Alli converter whine. I would look at the pump and filter area.
racinmike77
06-02-2008, 10:56 AM
mike what do you think about buying a alto C5 power pack and using it with my SC III. I figure for an extra $100 I know all of my clutches are new.
TheBac
06-02-2008, 07:28 PM
Never heard an Alli converter whine. I would look at the pump and filter area.


Oh wonderful news! Not......-:t

There goes mo'money.....:(
Mike L.
06-03-2008, 11:27 AM
Oh wonderful news! Not......-:t

There goes mo'money.....:(

Not necessarily. Alli's are known to whine and many times it means nothing; normal. :D
Mike L.
06-03-2008, 11:29 AM
mike what do you think about buying a alto C5 power pack and using it with my SC III. I figure for an extra $100 I know all of my clutches are new.

Waste of money. C5 only holds the ring gear from turning. I'll bet you could cut the C5 clutch number in half and still not have a failure.
jb23
06-03-2008, 06:09 PM
Mike L can you help out with your thoughts on precision converter and SC1057/1058 looking for some thing I can beat on an daily driver, best bang for the buck
racinmike77
06-09-2008, 12:57 PM
I dont think you can get a 1058 anymore, so its either the 1054 or the 1057. I wouldnt rule out the new 1056 either.
LarryJewell
06-09-2008, 04:00 PM
I've been running the ML Preceision for 4 months now and really like it. I had a Suncoast 1050 before.
jb23
06-09-2008, 09:13 PM
I've been running the ML Preceision for 4 months now and really like it. I had a Suncoast 1050 before.

nice to see you like it, don't know to much about Preceision would like more info Thanks
Mike L.
06-09-2008, 09:27 PM
nice to see you like it, don't know to much about Preceision would like more info Thanks

Terry Hedrick, owner of Precision Industries invented the triple lock converter. Many companies rebadged his converter until they began to build their own. Many big name companies use his billet cover and clutch assembly to build their own converter.
jb23
06-09-2008, 09:29 PM
how are they priced
jb23
06-09-2008, 09:35 PM
do they have different models or sizes
Mike L.
06-09-2008, 09:49 PM
do they have different models or sizes

All sizes are the same. Yes they have different models. Pricing is about a 100.00 or so cheaper than the Suncoast and ATS.
jb23
06-09-2008, 09:58 PM
All sizes are the same. Yes they have different models. Pricing is about a 100.00 or so cheaper than the Suncoast and ATS.

Thanks Mike
allisondan
12-19-2008, 10:05 PM
Performance Plus was the name on the box... I probably got taken for a ride on the price.

I am curious though.

Nick

http://www.bulkpart.com/DaccoInfo.html

http://www.bulkpart.com/Merchant2/merchant.mvc?Screen=PROD&Store_Code=2&Product_Code=DC-1000&Category_Code=Allison-1000tc&Product_Count=0

Sounds like a Dacco
LWATSON
12-23-2008, 05:19 PM
I have one of them. I think its one of the first ones they shipped to Merchant. Cant complain about the way it works with the transmission based on the racing/pulling I've done.

But I do get a whine from it when the trans is cold. I dont like that, but nothing I can do about it.My tranny whines also, its kindof loud but after a minute or two it quiets down. Its done this from day one.
Alligator Performance
12-23-2008, 06:15 PM
My tranny whines also, its kindof loud but after a minute or two it quiets down. Its done this from day one.

X2, both of my trucks with SCIV's whined.
Ridge_Runner_Diesel
12-23-2008, 09:18 PM
Any one have some thoughts on precision converters or have used them how well they hold up

I have one in my 2002, I like it alot...........;)

yes Mike L had precision build a converter to his specs, it has been highly reccomended to me and is slightly cheaper than the suncoast units.

The Precision I have is a ML-Triple

I've been running the ML Preceision for 4 months now and really like it. I had a Suncoast 1050 before.

I swapped my 1050 out last September for the Precision.

:)